Does DevRel Enable More Developers to Build With Spotify?

It's very much tied also to what the mission of the company is, right? Because indeed, you might attract many developers, oh, I make this very fun, look into slack or something. But is that going to lead to a paying customer? Are you just spending energy of the advocates or hobbyists that are not necessarily leading to more customers? So I imagine that it's also very, very tied to what your business model is.Yeah. And I think a really actually fascinating example of this is, is Spotify. You can use a Spotify API. You can do a bunch of cool stuff with it. But like, what are the businesses actually building on top of Spotify as,