Introduction

This episode does not have the best audio quality. You can just pretend like you were there with us. It's authentic. The content is still 10 out of 10, or at least that's what Melody says to make us feel better. We are delighted to be joined today by our fantastic guest host, Michelle Adams,. My former and wonderful former colleague and co-director and a curdosa law school. This is also the location of our first ever real live show back when we were young and hopeful. Today, we are your old and jaded post. I'm Dale Litman. Kate Shaw.