The Importance of Opening Up for People

We wanted to do something else because it just got, as we felt at the time, this just pigeonhole thing of, we're always going to be expected to do this and this only. And for everyone else in the band that did want to keep going, it just sucked for us to pull the rug out of up from under them. It's like Slayer. Yeah, there was never going to be a room for a ballad even though we kind of had some stuff in there. But you don't really realize that, right? Until you get there. Because anything after that is going to be like, oh, they're not the say or, you know, that thing is