"I tend to write about magical thinking because one of the things that I was aware of is there are books which sort of grimwars of magic. They then always tell you how to get to that beginning when we've been brought up to believe that the world is solid matter and the scientists know the truth," she says. "And so the other piece that you said along with this in a previous video is just kind of what Peter Carroll references like game playing." She adds: "It's a different way of interacting with the world that seems to be very much what you're promoting".