I'm happy that he believes that I think he was a committed utilitarian for better or worse, but I don't know that this argument genuinely leads to that conclusion. And in part, maybe it's because- Wait, what? Well, it's ranching in the fall, like fusing in the spring. It's not as crazy as pushing a fat guy off a bridge. Yeah. Okay. So let's get to some of the cases that he brings upBecause I have a pretty high tolerance for convoluted cases,. But I also kind of feel like you that these aren't cases that are as crazy as like trolley cases.

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