Wingman and Multi-Agent Orchestration

The Good Stuff, with Pete and Andy - Episode 26: Beyond Coding

Hosts: Pete and Andy

Episode Overview: Pete wraps up Sovereign Engineering's final week while Andy discovers Claude Code's surprising versatility beyond coding. The hosts explore multi-agent orchestration, Nostr ecosystem developments, and the expanding use cases for AI agents in everyday business tasks.

Key Discussion Points:

Claude Code for Non-Coding Applications (01:30-08:00)Andy shares his revelation about Claude Code's effectiveness beyond programming tasks, including organizing financial records, preparing taxes, and restructuring Apple Notes into Obsidian. The tool excelled at extracting action items from scattered notes and even analyzed a 100-page DNA report to create a personalized diet plan. Discussion of why Claude Code feels more capable than Claude Desktop for complex tasks, potentially due to different system prompts optimizing for autonomous operation versus interactive sessions.

Multi-Agent Architecture and Wingman (08:00-12:00)Pete describes building agent orchestration systems where Wingman calls other specialized agents through local APIs. Beacon now integrates Wingman for complex research tasks, automatically determining when to use web search or other tools. The vision includes abstracting recipes and MCP servers to switch between Claude Code, Codex, Goose, and Gemini based on task requirements.

AI for Content Optimization (12:00-16:00)Andy experiments with using Claude Code to analyze podcast YouTube data, discovering which thumbnail text styles drive better click-through rates. YouTube's built-in A/B testing capabilities for thumbnails revealed. Discussion of the resistance to over-optimizing content for platforms like LinkedIn versus the authentic engagement on Nostr.

Nostr vs. Traditional Social Media (16:00-19:00)Pete's viral post on Primal contrasts with the performative nature of LinkedIn. Both hosts appreciate Nostr's ability to provide meaningful content without the dopamine-driven engagement loops of traditional platforms. The five-minute check-in versus the endless scroll.

Sovereign Engineering Demo Day Prep (19:00-31:00)Pete showcases progress on WhatsApp Bitcoin integration with Lightning payments, emphasizing the "hook" of seamless crypto in mainstream messaging. Rebuilt gateway architecture to support multiple networks. Tired on the Field game adds skydiving cows, laser eyes, and Nostr login for persistent leaderboards. Other notable demos include Context VM servers, Gigi's Amps semantic search, local-first relay architecture, DNS alternatives using public key infrastructure, and BitChat's offline Bluetooth mesh for protest coordination.

Andy's Project Portfolio (31:30-38:00)Building Supply Drop, a standalone e-commerce brand using Shopify with third-party manufacturing APIs. Developing a podcast knowledge graph with Neo4j to track recurring themes and philosophical evolution across episodes, aiming to create an interactive agent for exploring the show's intellectual journey. Designing a minimalist habit tracker app that locks users into one habit for 21 days before allowing additional habits, incorporating AI accountability coaching.

Future Direction (38:00-39:00)Plans for workshops on both coding and non-coding agent applications when Pete returns to Perth. Recognition that agent capabilities are poorly understood despite their power across diverse use cases.