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Episode Twenty-Six: Debbie Zappia

Training Without Conflict Podcast

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The Evolution of Dog Training

I think your club has a big chance at least in the states right now to gain more popularity and hopefully it does. And even if it doesn't have to be, you know, take cover or replace, I feel that it's comparable enough that you can play in both areas if you want to. But we're understanding that the one is actually what the whole purpose of Schuttun was back in the 80s, 90s and well, I guess it kind of stops pretty much in 2000s. We already start to see the changes that we're talking about. And it becomes unstoppable.

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