In the summer of 64, I worked through college at a small summer stock playhouse because I was in the drama club. And all very legitimate, if you were good people, not these sorts of flaky, dumb people that you might think of when you think of theater sort of people. A mentor by this point, a guy from New York was old enough to be my father. He said, they want 15 minutes of drama and 15 minutes of comedy. If you can do that, they want to talk to you. So I went to a woman in the summer stock company, at least Chapman, wonderful woman. They had a program there with the you actually worked as it were in