I don't think he was forced out in the sense where Joe was like, you have to go. I think Joe did it in a very diplomatic way where it was like, look, you've got a lot of other things you could do here. Some point kill Tony will end or it'll show you'll voiced on somebody else and it'll be very funny to see where he gets foisted next. David Lucas: It's amazing to see where podcasts have got to. Like it is, uh, we've got to watch that.