"I never goes three hours or very rarely, but I find that that frees me to be more focused in the moment," he says. "You could do it like careening through the like good new becharker, grabbing trees pretty quickly and at the same time, think about all the other stuff that you have to get done when you get home." He adds: "It's a little bit like being stuck in motel six at night with the shopping channel on ... You can practice this and you start to pay attention to what it's like when you do it in a gracious way"

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