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Discussion on College Football and Magic Johnson's Career

A discussion on the state of college football, potential commissioner Condi Rice, collective bargaining, and the decline of viewership. Also, a debate on Magic Johnson's career and his influence on basketball.

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Sure. And nobody was there. Yeah, I know. It was a strange thing. And it's like, look, it's, and I thought it was, is it just too academic of a school? I don't know. Yeah, it might be part of it. I mean, I think it's always been an issue with the bowl game saying, well, we don't want to stay for it. Oh, well, that's bad. Look at the note. Yeah, they know. That's the reality of it. But yeah, there's a pragmatism. And so I think at the end of the day, this will sort out pragmatically as it does well. When can we get Condi Rice to be the commissioner of college football? You know, she can do whatever she wants. She can do whatever she wants. Commissioner of college football, we know what they're doing is terrible. And you know who thinks it's terrible? The commissioners of the Big Ten and the SEC? Sure. They know it too. She's the only one who could knock some heads together. The irony to this is, you know, they all want to do this for money. If they collectively bargain, they would get more collective cash. And they'd all still get there and you could have it tiered and all of that stuff. Everybody would win. There is a, I'm not, you know, this is not an argument for socialism. But guess what? The NFL has figured out the most profitable. All the professional sports leagues have. They're socialists and they're profitable. Sociable, profitable to the NFL. Socialism is profitable to the NBA. I mean, do you want a $70 million a year contract? It's pretty good in the NBA. That's called, it's a collective conclusion. Yeah. Well, there's that too. The college football world is sort of, I think leaving money on the table ironically. Yeah. Yeah. No, I think that's true. But, you know, it's interesting because on the West Coast, the viewership, I don't know what the numbers are like, but my guess is that the viewership is declining and that the number of people who are really following is smaller than it was even 10 or 15 years ago. No, it is weirdly, I mean college football, it's, I hate admitting this, but it's kind of a regional sport. Yeah, sure. Huge in the South, pretty big in the Midwest. And the coast sort of jump on the bandwagon when it's interesting. When it's interesting. Yeah, and that's kind of been, you know, where we are. What you, what you binge in these days. So on the plane ride over, I watched the first two episodes of the second season of winning time, which is a show about the Lakers and my Laker fan. I grew up a magic fan. That's a great, it's actually, I hear it's inaccurate historically or whatever, but it's kind of interesting. I read that the book, it's kind of based on loosely based on show time. Yeah, yeah, that was there. Let me throw an argument that I enjoy creating, which is I don't accept the idea that the debate should be Michael versus LeBron. I argue that Magic's career got cut short. Yeah. He has five rings. Magic and Michael faced off once he gets HIV. We don't ever have another matchup again. I promise you, Magic would have six, Michael would have five and what's the conversation? And you gotta forget that it's, I mean, I think Magic was iconic. I mean, there's no question Jordan's iconic, but just in the way Magic dealt with people. I mean, you see it a little bit in this show, the portrayal of him, I mean, just that. There's no Michael without Magic. Magic is, when I, when my argument for Magic as why he should be arguably the, at least on the same level. I agree with him. Is number one he won in his first year. Okay, that is not a small thing. And he was responsible for that win. And he was responsible for the win. So Michael didn't do that. Larry Bird didn't do that. LeBron didn't do that. Okay. Magic did. And then the second argument is he made it this. He brought, he elevated the entire game that all of a sudden said, how let's get our own superstar. We're gonna make Jordan a superstar. Jordan doesn't get his deal without Magic. So it's, you know, it's amazing. Nobody even wants to have that conversation. You have no quarrel with me. I figured I would agree. But he's got more titles than LeBron. Right. And he was arguably more as transformative. Sure. No change the way the game was played. So it's always one of these arguments that they, it's funny to me that nobody takes up for Magic in that argument, literally, but for Carl Malone, we might have had more Jordan versus Magic. You know, that was the rivalry we never got. That's true. And I don't, you know, yes, Jordan's teams were dominant, but were they dominant because there was nobody else to challenge them? Right. Or were they just simply dominant? We don't know because his chief rival got his career cut short. That's a great point. Anyway, that's a great point. I agree. But anyway, it's a great show. Oh, I've enjoyed it. I've enjoyed it. What's his name is so good at Jerry Bus? Yeah, I don't know what his name is. His name is John C. Riley. But the portrayal seems to be pretty spot on from what I've heard. Everything you hear, it is a lot of fun. Good to see you, bud. Thank you. Making it out here one more time. Thank you. All right.

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