Sally Kohn: What is the unifying characteristic that you've seen founders, successful founders across B2B and consumer have? And then it sounds like maybe there's some differences that Mark can fall asleep or maybe barely stay awake in the Facebook series A pitch meeting. She says she gives them a little bit more latitude than Travis at the, at Uber in, in consumer versus B2B. SALLY KELLY: I think as an entrepreneur picking an investor, you should feel that this person even quit their job to work with me.

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