What's the Best Way to Reach Out?

David Dobbit: I hope as a world, we focus on the positives. He said he tends to avoid the view that cities will become these multimodal utopias. The city of Denver prohibits transit riders from bringing their e-bikes and scooters toward light rail and buses. Those are topics to further explore on another day in episode. That is it for today. Thank you again to Dobbit for joining us.