In the world of adiction, ah, that's a tricky thing, because a lot of times you're dealing with somebody who is just trapped by the darkest of of forces. Ahand i know we're supposed to give, forgive 70 times seven and and we should be incredibly forgiving, but there is also a moment in which we can discern, am i being manipulated here? Ah, one of the other sort of tell tale signs of manipulation, i think, is when somebody is focused much more on your obligation, curtis, to forgive me, than i am focused on my obligation to make amends with you or turn from my behavior.