i often talk to my kids about trying to be kinder and more compassionate. And then they see me losing my temper when i'm when i'm hungry, tired or stressed. So one of the things i try to do in life is close the gap between what i say and what i am. It's not just what warren and charliey say, although they're immensely articulate and eloquent, it's what they actually do that's, that's what powerful.

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