A lot of people spend their whole careers trying to be good at one of those things. I think the big thing that we're learning is essentially sort of variation of space, both on a sort of horizontal level but also by team. The data is out that what it's all done is just create a ton of distraction and no. So instead of you know a Dilbert open office space like what are the real things that managers and leaders can do to create more creativity within an organization.

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