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Checkpoint episode with Lisa Gansky - Ecosystems: between the "no more" and the "not yet"
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How to Bring the Not Yet Forward in a Way That Provides Confidence
"We have to find like the mechanism that allows for us to understand how we go forward from here," he says. "It's not going to be like the fantasy that, you know, we understand what our future looks like." He adds: "I think there's a way for calling forward the people who have been building experiments and playing with models"
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