Forrest Smith, founder and CEO of Kineon (code: BIOHACKINGBRITTANY), talks about what actually happens inside your cells, joints, gut, and brain when you use targeted red and near-infrared laser therapy. We unpack how the MOVE+ Pro and Kineon's new gut–brain protocols are being used for thyroid health, chronic pain, C-section scars, migraines, fertility, and even long-term brain health.
As a postpartum mom who uses the MOVE+ on my C-section scar and lower back, this episode is very personal. Forrest shares specific protocols, how to avoid NSAID overuse, why dosing and depth of light matter, and early research on using lasers for menstrual pain, endometriosis, and infertility.
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WE TALK ABOUT:
05:10 - How Forrest habit-stacks Kineon into his morning routine for cardiovascular and immune health
10:05 - Gut mucosal healing, leaky gut, and how lasers support tight junctions and reduce systemic inflammation
13:30 - Lasers vs LED panels and masks, and why depth and dosing matter for joints, brain, and organs
17:20 - The ideal daily protocol: How many minutes, how often, and how to habit-stack for long-term consistency
21:50 - Acute injury recovery: What to do in the first week after a fall, sprain, or sports injury
27:05 - The hidden cardiovascular risks of chronic NSAID use and why "just taking Advil" is not benign
29:30 - Migraine protocols, laser placements, and why photobiomodulation can outperform pharmaceuticals
35:25 - C-section and surgical scars: when to start, how long to treat, and what to expect months or years later
39:50 - Fertility trials, systemic inflammation, and laser protocols that changed pregnancy outcomes
43:20 - The future: deeper organ targeting for liver, kidneys, gut–brain–liver axes and appendix-related inflammation
48:05 - Microvascular health, Alzheimer's risk, and why brain-directed lasers may change neurodegenerative care
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