How to Grow a Podcast

I mean, that's how you grow just a podcast. I've learned this all through cross-provision. You're going to do a lot of stuff that doesn't make any money. The point is to draw traffic back to the place where people can pay for more of you. And it works extremely, extremely well. But yeah, that's my only income because I don't do like brand deals or anything like that. As someone who has done a lot of brand deals, there's no stability in that. It's so hard. There is Anything entertainment wants. Literally.