Sm, about ten years ago, ye ish an, two thousand nine south by southwest, i went to see you at a see yougive your book talk of career renegade. At the time, ray, what were you doing in austin, texas? And so that was my main intention for that south southwestern, is just to meet all these people and put a physical face to a digital avatar. Sm: I think they were showing up earlier in my life, and they were just cultivated to a way in the military experience. You're this kind of weird blend of philosopher, king and am, unshakable calm, and also operating and execution of brilliance.

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