Is There Anything I Should Throw in There?

Sally Kohn: Where do we, where do we go from here in this gamified world? How do we know? This is stuff I'm working on right now. My worry is constantly about various metrics and gamification, swapping that for attunement to yourself. So you don't listen to yourself. You listen to this externalized thing that's telling you how you're doing. And that I feel like is a pernicious thing that you can start to notice. She says if she even just take an hour to turn off her phone, turn off my computer and like, I feel like people don't sit with themselves anymore.