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Mark Leibovich Talks Thank You for Your Servitude

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Obama's Swampiness Is a Defining Characteristic of His Presidency

The president didn't drain the swamp, he perfected it. The idea that you could just sort of, like, pasically shop around and get yourself a pardon by saying nice things about the president on t v is a bizarre bit of swampiness. I mean, what i always thought, and this always, like, never got enough attention. And wend like, voice it now, and maybe it'll get a little more attention. But to me, i think that's the swamp.

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