"I don't think it's self-defense because his response was deadly force to something that was not deadly force," he says. "Unless citizens start gunning down shoplifters, there won't be stores left." If you put me on a jury, I'm not even going to listen to the evidence,. Honestly, I wouldn't even listen. He would just be doing it so that shoplifters didn't think they could get away with it. 'Do you know who starts all of the wars in the world? Humans'