The Underdog Status of Larry Elson

I think it's the underdog status. People still look at us as, oh, these are engineers. What can they do? You know, they're actually hustling harder than anybody else. Our brand is better than even maybe, look at the best marketers in the world. We have the best market in the world in this company. And because obviously the challenge continues to grow, the bar continues to be higher. As Mark Leslie says, there's no finish line.