What Do You Do When Racism Is Not There?

0:00 What does “black identity” mean?

4:53 Why Bob left the Civil Rights Movement

8:04 Shelby: Our problem today is freedom, not racism

15:36 Glenn: We can’t afford to give up on black collective goals

21:30 Why Shelby wouldn’t sign a letter of support for Clarence Thomas

30:13 Would freeing ourselves from race mean sacrificing collective action?

39:10 The tactical efficacy of racial identification

44:32 The struggle for human freedom

50:46 Can we take pride in group achievements past?

1:02:22 Kmele: We have a too-narrow sense of diversity

1:07:20 Glenn: “The future is assimilation”

1:13:03 Concluding statements

Links and Readings

Kmele’s podcast, The Fifth Column

The Woodson Center

Glenn and Bob’s letter of support for Clarence Thomas

Thomas Chatterton Williams’s book, Self-Portrait in Black and White: Family, Fatherhood, and Rethinking Race

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