IRL in Real Life T-Shirts

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I'm very intrigued by this assertion that maybe living in virtual worlds will be an even better experience than reality as we experience it now. Now, there are obviously going to be a lot of people listening who think that's preposterous and who find it haunting. And I have some good friends who are, you know, digital entrepreneurs who have a, who wear defend IRL in real life t-shirts. They're likely to see an equal and opposite force, maybe not equal, but an opposite force pushing back against this kind of movement into virtual experiences. What I'd prefer to say is maybe they're going to be upsides and downsides for both. At the same time,

Last year, Rufus sat down with philosopher David Chalmers to talk about the allure of virtual reality, whether robots will ever achieve consciousness, and the likelihood that we’re living in a simulation (David thinks it’s about 25 percent). It was a fascinating, freewheeling conversation, and we left large chunks of it on the cutting room floor. Now, though, with ChatGPT and other generative AI platforms taking the world by storm, those unaired sections, many of which were about the ethics of artificial intelligence, feel super relevant. So today, we’re sharing our complete interview with David. Buckle up. It’s a wild ride.