The Importance of Suffering

Kelsey grew up in a different world, like very much more just American evangelicalism. Having a baby was the thing that pushed me towards grace, right? Because yeah, if anybody thinks they're tired on a Sunday morning, you have no idea how tired a new mom is to try to get kids to church. I think it's partly because it's just tiring. So yeah, as in all things suffering just pushes us closer to God.