There's a kind of decadence that came with a unipola world because there was no existential threat. There was no need to be our best selves, because we were sort of riding high. But maybe we are going to be returned to a world where will be better versions of ourselves. I think the possibility of that certainly exists. And that may be some actually grounded optimism to counteract pessimism. Just because there will be the political impulse for domestic persecution does not mean other solutions can't be found.

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