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JD Vance: the reluctant interpreter of Trumpism

The Gray Area with Sean Illing

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Hillbilly Elegy by J.D. Vance

J.D. Vance: I was very interested and still interested in this question of why the United States doesn't have as much upward mobility as other advanced economies. And it's obviously something that I've lived very personally. He says he wanted to create a space where we wouldn't be having this conversation about, is it too little money? Is it too much culture that's really driving these problems?

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