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Episode 523: Fan Favorite - The Dark Secrets Behind the Wizard of Oz

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Disturbing Incidents on the Set of The Wizard of Oz

They discuss a series of disturbing incidents that took place during the filming of The Wizard of Oz, including a dangerous fire stunt gone wrong and mistreatment towards the actress Judy Garland.

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Speaker 1
She said the only reason she didn't sue was because she wanted to work again. She never would have if she was sued. So did they have to pause filming that? They did, yeah. And she did refuse to work with fire ever again in the movie. She was in the figure. I don't blame her. Now, in fact, when she got back to set, she was due to do that sky writing scene, that surrender Dorothy scene, which there's a band called surrender Dorothy, I remember, like from high school. Yeah. Great band name. Surrender Dorothy. So good. I want to call it. I can't. But good job, guys. Yes, she was doing the closeups because there's closeups shots of her like on the broom, like laughing and there's smoke behind her. I'm like yelling at Dorothy. Yeah, just screaming and screeching. But it required her to sit on a steel saddle on her broom. And it was raised up and then smoke would pour out of the back from a pipe under the saddle. Oh, God. That's how they rigged this whole thing. I feel like I don't want to do that. Now she was told by everyone, no, this is completely safe. Don't worry about it. You're good. Like, when have we ever put you in danger before? You know? Like what is this? I can explode under my adonka dunk. But they mentioned, you know, if you'd like, we did make you a fireproof costume. And she was like, why? Why'd you make me a fireproof costume if this is completely safe? And it's probably not even fireproof. Like, why would I? I don't trust a single thing you say. So she was like, no. So she said she wouldn't do it with the smoke and the fire. She's like, no. She said she would do the closeups. She was like, do the closeups of my face, add shit and afterwards. And she was like, I don't know what to tell you with everything else. So her stunt double Betty Danko said she would do the rest. No, she was a young girl at this point. And she was probably trying to like be like an upcoming actress. So she's like, I'll do anything. Oh, yeah. And she's a stunt girl. So she's like, she's done a few things like this. And she's like, oh, yeah, I'm going to be done for anything. But Margaret actually told her before she left set that day, she was like, I'm really worried for you. I don't want you to do it. Like a word, something's going to happen. You're going to get hurt. And she was like, no, I need the money. I don't want them to think I'm hard to work with. Well, turns out they did two good takes on the broomstick. And the third time the pipe literally exploded under her. You were going to say that. She said, quote, I felt as though my scalp was coming off. I guess that's because my hat and my black wig were literally torn loose. They found them days later at the top of the stage. Oh my God. The explosion blew me off the broomstick. I managed to grab it with both hands and throw my leg over it. I hung upside down while the men handling the wires lowered the broomstick to the floor and put me face down on the stage. She was completely burned and her left leg had a giant hole in it. Where her dress had become fused because it was burned into this giant hole in her leg. What the fuck? I want to hear what's even better. I don't quote while I lay there on the floor waiting for the ambulance. The wardrobe woman came running in and she said, what did you do with the hat? I have to turn it in,
Speaker 2
you know, I'd be like, there's a mother fucking hole in my leg. And I suggest you get the fuck away from me unless you'd like a matching one. I was just lit a flame. And you, what?
Speaker 3
I'd be like, you can take the hat when you find it and shove it right
Speaker 2
up your arm. Like, I am
Speaker 1
Bruni the fire spirit from Frozen 2 right
Speaker 2
now. And you are asking me where that hat is? Can you what you're laying? First of all, face down. Because I can't even have like the
Speaker 1
nicety to put you on your back. And then she's like, I need to hand in that hat. I need to turn that in, you know. It's like, well, you're going to get in trouble today, okay? You're going to have some explaining. You know what? You should cite explosion for why you didn't turn that in. Person was exploded in the hat. I don't know. Hat literally exploded. She had permanent scars on her legs from it, I guess. And I guess later at some like some kind of Hollywood thing, I don't know if it was like, it was like years later, she ran into Victor Fleming and he tried to look under her skirt to see the scars because he said he felt so bad. What? He tried to see her leg scars because he wanted to see how bad it was.
Speaker 2
I'd be like, well, my leg exploded. So that's how bad it was. That's how bad it was. The fuck Victor? Yeah. I'd be like,
Speaker 1
Victor, get away from me. You bad news. You bad news, okay? Now Victor Fleming speaking of him, I'll skip ahead to something with him because please do. He so he actually wrote and admitted to this incident. He said, quote, when Judy Garland couldn't stop breaking into giggles at the pseudo-menacing advance of Bert Lars cowardly lion. So when they first meet the cowardly lion and he runs after todo, yeah, and then she wax them on the nose. Yeah. I guess she kept breaking into giggles because that's funny and I guess Bert Larr was really funny because he was like, like just like coming at her. So she kept laughing.
Speaker 2
And she was like, I was going to say she was literally young.
Speaker 1
And so he said, quote, he escorted her off the yellow brick road and said, now darling, this is serious, slapped her in the face, then ordered her now go in there and work. And she said it. Yep, happened. And everyone around the set said, I saw it happen. He literally slapped a 17 year old girl in the face and was like, get back to work and stop laughing. Wow. They weren't kidding when they said things were different back then. And then he, I guess, immediately felt bad. So he started going around to the crew and asking people in the crew to punch him in the face. Good. And so they were all like, no, because they're like, I'm going to lose my job. I don't know. I can't. It's a really weird way to handle that situation instead of just like going to her and saying, I feel
Speaker 2
really
Speaker 1
bad. And also how many of the crew, you know, he hadn't met any of the crew. So he's literally walking up to them and they're like, hi, I'm Joe, Mr. Fleming. Nice to meet you. Like, no, no, I won't punch you in the face. Yes, sir. Please punch me. And I guess Judy like saw this happening because she immediately went back into the scene. Of course she did. The scene you see in the movie is exactly what happened right after she got slapped. The first take she did was the one in the movie. Oh, wow. So one you see in the movie is right after she just got slapped in the face by Victor fucking Fleming. She was so abused. It's really sad. It's horrific. So she actually heard all this like that he was walking around like asking her members to punch himself. And I guess she like overheard this and she went over to him and said because he was like, you should just punch me in the face to her. To which I would say Okey doe. And I guess she said, I won't do that, but I'll kiss your nose. And she did. Oh, what a cutie. Like, what? What? They did Judy so wrong. Yeah, they did her dirt. They did her so wrong. Yeah, I would have punched Victor Fleming. Straight. Like that's your time. Just kidding. But like what what a pure and wholesome human. What a strange way. It's like led into such
Speaker 2
a shitty path of life. Oh, yeah. Watching J
Speaker 1
in the head of the studio, Louis Louis B. Meyer. I don't know if it's Louis or Lewis, but get ready for this. I was just going to say. We've got that, my guy. But he's a piece of shit. So I literally don't care what his real name is. He would call her quote, fat little pig in pigtails. Wow. So I don't care if it's Lewis or Louis. Yeah, I don't care. No. Assel said that I'm going to try. And let me tell you, Mr. Glass House should have kept his rocks to himself. Go ahead and Google what he looks like. Yeah. Excuse me, Glass House, Louis B. Meyer. OK. I think it's Louis. But yeah, like go away, Mr. Glass House. We're loading. This is when she started in the fuck off. Exactly. Exactly. Like I'm sorry. Was there a mirror on set that day, sir? Like please, turn. Now this is when she started being placed on these crazy diets of only like soup and cigarettes and all that shit. Seriously. Now for Oz, the studio execs focused heavily on her weight and basically made her feel like shit that she even had boobs. Because she was 17 at this point. She's like turning into like
Speaker 2
that time when you're getting the boobs.
Speaker 1
And now Dorothy was supposed to be like a younger girl. Like she was supposed to be like, I think in the book, she's supposed to be like 12. Oh. But I think in the movie, they have her more around like 15. So cast a 15 year old if that's what you want. Well, and so they were like, we want you to look younger than 17. So obviously she's not. So they were literally documenting her food intake for months leading up to shooting. Wow. Like the exact studio execs are documenting a young girl's food intake for months. And that is like and obviously did, but will affect you for the rest of your life. 100% you start eating like that. This stuff was the reason she died the way she did and like developing that 100% food is so dangerous. Oh, it's so dangerous. It's so sad. They also kept her on a steady pill schedule at this point as well. They would force her to take what they called pet pills to stay awake and death. And downers to sleep and chill out. So she would sleep for like four hours and then they would just like shake her awake for some pet pills down her throat and make her work for like day straight before she would crash again. Oh my God. Yeah. Now during filming of Oz, she was on a diet of soup, dozens of cigarettes a day and black coffee. That's it. She says. Can you imagine her stomach and on top of it, they made her wear crazy corsets under that dress and strapped down her chest as tight as they could to make it so she didn't look like she had a chest. Wow. So she was and that's like against her will. Like, and she's sitting there having to like and it's painful and she's having to like pretend to be this like Pepe a like right. Right. Just the young girl and yeah, like I just can't imagine her like condition. Her stomach was in with all those cigarettes,
Speaker 2
coffee on like an empty stomach and then pills. Yeah.
Speaker 1
My God. Like can you imagine how sick she felt all the time? No. Because I've had to go on like medicine before where like I like like I broke my pelvis and they had to put me on morphine. Yeah. And you like you couldn't eat and I was the sickest I have ever been. Yeah. I can't imagine having to be in that state while doing a movie where I was also just being treated like she had a time. Like when I had whatever pain pill they gave me after like my first C section, I took one of them and I was like so ill. So sick. I was like I've never taken that like wow. I could not handle that because I'm just usually I have like a pretty good pain tolerance. Like I'm saying really good one. And so I usually can get like if something hurts, I'll take like an ad bill. Yeah. And it's like that usually is fine for me. So but this I was like, oh, I just got cut open. Maybe I should take this. Yeah. And the oh my God, never again. I was like, no, this is not worth the sickness. I feel we had to go back to the doctors when I was like that and we were like, yeah, like I can't take this.
Speaker 3
And they had me take a half and even a half. I was still like
Speaker 1
horrible. I just see I was like, they just gave me motor and afterwards. And I was like, that's all I can do. Yeah. But on top of all of this with Judy Garland, some of the actors who played some of the characters in Munchkin land, they were like sexually assaulting her on set. Yeah. In her husband, one of her husband's later said, quote, they would make Judy's life miserable on set by putting their hands under her dress. The men were more than 40 years old at that point. And she's 17. Yeah. She like is just turning 17. Rose. And she's like made to look like a child in that like way younger. What the fuck? Yeah. It's just really messed up. And I get I do from what I read though, I guess the three guys like the lion, Tin Man and Scarecrow were like super protective of her. Yeah. And they were all like good dudes and none of them did anything like that. And they were like really tight as like a little unit. Like squat. Yeah. So that's nice to know. At least she had like the comfort of that kind of protection there. But another thing that's really crazy about this is if you've seen, if you remember the poppy scene, yeah, where the Wicked Witch of the West causes them to fall asleep in the poppies, poppies. Well, lucky for them, Glinda casts a counterspell during that that causes snow to fall and they all wake up. Unfortunately, Glinda was like kind of that. Maybe she was the bad guy here because the snow that fell was 100%. And asbestos. Oh, yeah. Now this was the 1930s. And asbestos was actually used in Christmas decorations then, like fake snow. What the fuck? But still, this is wild to know now. Yes. Especially when you watch it and you're just like, Oh, that's just straight up asbestos and it's all over their faces, all over everything. They're literally like in their mouths. Like it's just like they're just like living in it. And it's it's funny because I read a one of the articles I read was on Atlas Obscura and they put it best by saying the Wizard of Oz quote literally douses its main characters and carcinogens.
Speaker 2
Correct.
Speaker 1
Literally what it does. And when you watch the scene, you're just sitting there being like poison. Yeah. That's just for your body. You're all being doused in poison. Wow.
Speaker 3
All of us. Just.
Speaker 1
And a last little thing. Well, last big thing that I'll touch upon, which is like kind of the saddest thing to me. But I'll leave you on like, well, no, I'm going to leave you on a sad note. I'm sorry. All right. But I'll give you a couple of things after this. But the woman who played Auntie M. Who Auntie M and Uncle Henry, you're just like, I love you. Cute. Love you so much. Her name was Clara Blandick and she was famous. She was like on Broadway and tons of movies. Yeah. This was actually one of her like smallest roles, but like she took it because she just loved the movie and they loved having her name on it. Now she after the Wizard of Oz was in like failing health. It was like through the 1950s and she was going blind. She was the victim of severely painful arthritis all over her body and they couldn't get it on control back then. Just real quick to this is like a suicide trigger. So just this is going to be a minute where I'm going to talk about it. So April 15th, 1962, she returned to her home after church. She placed photos and letters and mementos from her career all around her. She surrounded herself with newspaper clippings of her career, her awards, movie credits. She got dressed in a royal blue gown. She did her hair and she took sleeping pills and she laid on the couch with a gold blanket over her and placed a plastic bag over her head. Oh, wow. She passed away that way and she left a note that said, quote, I am now about to make the great adventure. I cannot endure this in agonizing pain any longer. It's all over my body. Neither can I face the impending blindness. I pray the Lord, my soul, the take aim in. Oh,
Speaker 2
apparently she is
Speaker 1
buried very close to Charlie grape when who played Uncle Henry, her husband. Oh my gosh. She like yards away. Wow. Right next to each other. Is that just like a weird? I don't know if it was like men too, but it's like, a nice little like, but how sad is that? Like she had this and she had this beautiful, amazing career. Yeah.
Speaker 2
Can
Speaker 1
I say something weird? It's like
Speaker 2
beautifully sad, like the way that
Speaker 1
she did it. I'm like, I'm glad that she was able to like take control of the way she wanted to do it. Yeah. I mean, she was in control of it. That was what she wanted to do. But like how sad that she had no other option. Yeah. It's such a bummer that like medical stuff has come so far and it hadn't come that far to relieve her of any of that pain. That is really sad. Because I can't imagine being in chronic pain and there's nothing. No,
Speaker 2
because nothing. Artipiness like just
Speaker 1
watching people go. I obviously have never really gone through that. Yeah. But watching people go through that. I can't imagine. Yeah. I really can't. And to have it all over your body. Yeah. I hope she did have a great adventure. I hope she did. Excuse me. I hope she's having a great adventure. I hope she's having that great adventure. Go off. She's over the rainbow having a blast. Oh, that one really. Yeah. Thanks. I know I'm sorry. Do you have anything? Good in there. I guess this just shows you how close like the three main character like the Ray Bulger and Bert Larr and Jack Haley were when I think Ray was the last one to pass away out of all of them. And when Jack Haley died, he gave a eulogy at his funeral and he said, Jack, it's going to be a very lonesome on the yellow brick road now. Really close they were. And just to leave you on like not the saddest of notes, but more like, wow, Margaret Hamilton get it. OK. The Wicked Witches lines, most of them were cut and a lot of her scenes were cut from the final film because execs and focus groups said the performance was way too terrifying. They said kids literally couldn't handle it. Go off. Like some Margaret Hamilton just scared the shit. Everybody. That's what I was hired for. So she's only on screen for like 15 minutes in the film, but she had tons more. Oh, that's. And it was all like really scary. Like she was terrified. I would. I wish they had like did a version like where they could have released that version. I know. I'm like, can we have her deleted scenes? Yeah. You're scary scenes for real. But what if they could ever uncover them someday? I know. I wonder. I think that there's a way to do that. Who knows how they? I'm not even sure I should look. I know. Let's find out. But that is some of the dark secrets I found about the yellow, the yellow brick road, the yellow brick road, but about the words that are paused and how fucked up the filming was. Wow. That was really entertaining question. Definitely is cursed. I feel. I feel like I'm. It's a lot. I feel like I'm never going to watch that movie the same with your children. You don't. When you watch it again, like, and you're like, wow. You watch it with the different. You exploded. Yeah. You had to go to the hospital. You almost went blind. Yeah. You did this. And for the second half of the film, I haven't looked to see this, but Margaret Hamilton's wearing green gloves instead of green makeup because she could, even when she came back, it hadn't healed enough that she could have painted up on. So she had to wear gloves on her hands. Oh, wow. And I want to look for it the next time I watch it now. I do too. Yeah. Because I guess she also said that, like, Victor Fleming grabbed her hand when she came back and was like, it looks good. And she was like, no, that's like freshly healed skin. Yeah, it looks pretty, but it doesn't feel to do anything. And like that's how nasty it was. Victor Fleming sounds like the worst. And I just had everybody he had asked to punch him in the face. Actually, I did punch him in the face. I know that would have been nice. Yeah. But yeah, that's the dark shit about the Wizard of Oz. Oh, and just like because I people might be wondering, because this is big legend that one of the actors who played one of the Munchkins like hung themselves in a tree. Oh, yeah. That's not true. You can see it in the original part of the film. Yeah. That is completely untrue. Just what people were seeing was a bird that they had on set that like puts its wings up and kind of looks like it. And people have photoshopped. Like an actual hanging person in there. It's not true. It didn't happen. Or is that what they want you to. Yeah, there's no, I mean, there's absolutely no evidence or no police reports. And I was going to say nothing. We know all the other horrific things about what we're doing. It would have leaked out. But it's still in a very enduring rumor because everything I was reading, I every time I would like peek over at comments of it, like any, like, you know, little movies about it or books or anything. There was always a million people being like, well, someone hung themselves on the set. Like that is an enduring rumor. Wow. People really believe that. And I did. I did for a while. When that first came out, I was young. And I remember trying to see it. I was like, what is like? And you could see the bird. And I remember being like, is that? But it's not. It's a. Yeah.
Speaker 2
Like, yeah, I remember definitely hearing that. I never looked for it though.

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