We saved the hardest for last. As we first hunter gatherers, we wiped out the large mammals and the other humans that were not our species. So that's what we do. But it's harder to wipe out things in the ocean because they're more diffuse than or land. And i think that the big transition bis is the use of fossil energy started with the steam trollers in 18 80 about in e uk. This allowed us to make to punch into marinico system to remove lots of things. We were whaling before but getting fish from one kilometer depth, or one mile, even depth, that you need havy technology. The subsidise fisheries do

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