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EP 187 — Jason Leister: Creating Freedom

Spirit Gym with Paul Chek

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Is It Better to Protect Nature or Protect the Environment?

"I don't really if it comes down to what's more important to me, a making the legal system work better and making things cheaper, or protecting nature? I, with 38 years of research and being raised on a farm and understanding how nature works, say, guess what, boys and girls, we got a much bigger problem," he says. "Because none of the ship matters when there's no insects left, there's no polinaters. None of the ship matter when your soils poisoned."

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