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306: Celeste Headlee Can't Say A**hole on NPR

The Way I Heard It with Mike Rowe

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A Sweater and a Jacket, I'd Go With Jetterer

"My grandfather's always going to be more important than I am, and honestly, I love that," he says. "I feel like it relieves pressure off of me." If you can change the discourse in our country right now, there is a lot of opportunity for your work, Chuck said.

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