it's what we were talking about the victim of abuser dialectic everyone wants to be the victim and no one wants to be but everyone is but everyone is actually a user cuz part of victimhood

is making other people pay yeah what I think about the drag queen story hours is like I think and also here's what I think okay I was also because you know this youtuber that I loved when I was younger this woman Colleen Ballinger was canceled for like grooming or having inappropriate relationship with fans or whatever but on top of that people were sort of looking back at like clips from her old comedy shows where she would perform as the Miranda Stings character shows that I went to a few times as a child and people are like it was weird that she was doing sexual stuff on stage when she had an audience that was young it was weird that she was you know make doing comedy with like innuendo or whatever and it's like it's odd that people look back on that that are my same age and feel victim when people look back at Shane Dawson videos and they're like ew he was gross for making this joke about fucking a kid or whatever it's like they look back on that and they feel victimized in hindsight over a video that was posted 15 years ago a show that was staged seven years ago whatever

that nobody cared about at the time

yeah exactly but when I look back at the things I think God isn't it great that I was consuming all of this like kind of gutsy and ballsy and sort of like even if it was tacky even if I look back on it and I'm like that erodox media it was bad even if I look back on it I'm like well that wasn't even funny it's like at least I was consuming some form of video art or like live stage work and that I look back on it I'm like that inspired me to be a comedian and those were the building blocks that you know showed me the kind of work I wanted to make when I was younger and the kind of work I want to make now it's like I don't feel victimized by those things in hindsight I feel I'm like

isn't it great that I have this like recorded history of all these things yeah but I don't even think that they truly and genuinely feel victimized I think that they think that's how they think they should feel they think that's what's right to feel yeah but

I look back on those things and it's like I look at the Miranda Sings shows that I went to in like 2014 2015 when I was you know but I fucking come drop in my dad's balls and I think and I'm like yeah maybe I look back on it now and I'm like I wouldn't laugh at the Miranda Sings character in YouTube videos now but it's like you know I got to go see like live comedy shows and I got to laugh at something that felt a little racy

but what do you think but what do you think about then sort of the status of comedy today seeing as how there is such a prohibition against transgression of any kind here's the thing I think that like there is

a lot of interesting work always being done in comedy yes that's a lot of it's kind of been all in boring but like what I find interesting is the people who are like we're clapping back against like the fact that there's you know we're being censored and you know they're posing on the tapes like them the covers of their Netflix specials with like caution tape over their mouths and they're like you

know they're like that's all that's also always been a part of like well yeah but it's

like a lot of people that are like we're pushing back against cancel culture it's like the people who are like you know they now live in Austin and they're like I call them the Roganites like the yeah like the Dave Chappelle like what's up with Tranny's like pre canceled like Netflix comedy special yeah Chappelle will to me will always be somebody who I'm like I will hear him out and it because yeah but he's no no he's he is one of those people where he's like I'm clapping back at cancel culture but not to the extent not to the extent that like Rogan and like Thompson girl and like Bert Crusher and like all of those like Austin Texas comics who like left LA left New York to move to Austin to like you know we're gonna start to like clap back at cancel culture but it's like but like you can't you guys are actually people who are really favored and loved and have audiences all over the world and you tour all over the country all of the country like all of the I'm stuttering I'm turning into dark brand and you turn like they they they tour all over the world and like you know they do shows in Asia yeah it's not like a massive audience and platform and it's like you guys aren't the people that are being deplatform you guys aren't

I