R kant does consistently say, as onil has been suggesting, that that this a phrase refers to freedom, to god, also to the immortality of the soul. A and er, that is one way in which the thing in itself has has a certain role within kant's philosophy. But as john was also mentioning earlier, it's also possible to see things in themselves as being the ultimate reality, the ultimate, but unknowable reality against which we have to understand appearances. And this is where kant introduces the idea that they, he calls them limit concepts. They operate huristically in order to make us aware of what it is that we we cannot know. So they they set

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