I want to also Toby when you answer the question I also want to hear as you're answering it why it took some convincing for you to join. Maybe we should start there. And also maybe loop it back to like the original topic to like what the heck even is an electric RV because it's all kind of tied together so my I was Tesla as well for six years and then I was product manager for about a year. You know big heavy duty electric vehicles their principal product was a was a transit bus at the time. But if you take a step back RVing as a pastime in the US is gigantic but one in 10 Americans owns an RV.
Lightship co-founders Toby Kraus and Ben Parker join part of our Autonocast crew to talk RVs and road trippin', EVs and how their experiences at Tesla influenced their new adventure.