What's the Connection Between COVID and Lockdowns?

It would be interesting to look at Australia's data, because Australia has much more homogenous population. But it had the toughest lockdowns probably in the world. And if lockdowns, and they didn't have much COVID there, they were able to keep, they've got COVID now. We think that that's how it's connected. So in other words, we see it as a proxy for where people actually die.