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I think it's been a tough few years. I look at back when I was a last student, the DARPA grand challenges. And this was a defense research program that really energized kick started what has become the self-driving vehicle industry. It's just kind of the poster child of American investment by the government done really well. We haven't seen a lot of that over the last few years. Somehow we're kind of missing that critical step.
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