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Broken Record with Rick Rubin, Malcolm Gladwell, Bruce Headlam and Justin Richmond

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The Zero Sum Myth

When some Americans imagine the transformation of this country, they imagine that they're going to lose if we actually create an equitable and just anti-racist America. It seems as you've written that that's based on a zero sum myth. Their self-interest is in preserving racism at all costs. Our side, when we only talk about racism as something that's good for white people, are helping out a little bit.

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