Eric Stonestreet: I think that probably what I pulled out of that at the very least was and this was my transition from my sort of software career into doing the podcast full time. And it was if you don't try this you'll always wonder, right? He says there's a way to do this without taking an exorbitant amount of risk. "What we want from these people is not a kick in the butt or a slap in the face, okay? It's a pat on the back"

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