Introduction

JD Flynn: We're having this episode of the pillar podcast in a bar in Baltimore that's like about seven blocks. Seven blocks from the hotel where the US bishops have their meeting and where they have big pink dog statues. So we are, we're like a, we're at a bar there. And Ed and I came to this bar last year and we were pretty sure that it was a dive bar,. But we were wondering now as if we actually just had more to drink the here than we thought that we did.