I've Been on My Phone a Lot, I'm Trying to Resurrect My Stand Up Career

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"i've been dealing with depression and stuff like that. The really interesting thing that happened to me is, and look, i went to see my family for a thanksgiving," he said. "It was everything i thought it would be, right? There was no part of me that even wanted to check it for a minute."

In today’s episode, we try something different: a special two-part conversation in which Cal coaches his longtime friend, comedian and podcast pioneer Jamie Kilstein, through a digital declutter. The first part of the conversation ends with Cal’s prescription for Jamie, while the second part picks up six weeks later to check in on how things actually went.

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Thanks to Jesse Miller for production, Jay Kerstens for the intro music, and Mark Miles for mastering.