i was feeling really overwhelmed by all the changes that were happening around me. There's no manual out there on how to navigate big life changes, right? We don't know what that process is supposed to look like. And so i was like, let's dig up the most fascinating change stories, changes of all kinds,. And then let's see what we can learn. Let's let's see we can change our own minds about change. Michael lewis: When i met you, there was no you had no media ambition. How did you even get interested in being a podcaster?...