Do You Have a DPE Strategy?

I like the flaky test example because I think it really is a specific example where every developer deals with flaky tests, right? It's like tests can be flaky and that's just reality. And yet very few organizations actually take something like theflaky test and say, how much is this flaky test actually costing us across our whole developer organization? What is the impact of this flakytest on our productivity? Like everyone just kind of accepts flaky tests or reality and we can't do anything about it," he says.