i think that there's going to be a reckoning. And i think one of the things at's very important to explain to listeners is that when scientists disagree, that's a feature, not a bug,. That's how science progresses. Like scientists disagreeing with each other is the process works. We test our ideas against the truth. The disagreement itself, we could have done a better job preparing the public to see that scientists might, for example, disagree about masking. But very quickly, we're going to do experiments, and we'll come to some consensus.

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