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“The pathless path is an alternative to the default path. It is an embrace of uncertainty and discomfort. It’s a call to adventure in a world that tells us to conform. For me, it’s also a gentle reminder to laugh when things feel out of control and trusting that an uncertain future is not a problem to be solved.” - from The Pathless Path by Paul Millerd.
In this episode I sit down for a conversation with Paul Millerd, a writer, creator, and consultant. A few years ago Paul had everything he thought he wanted from his corporate job at the most prestigious consulting firm in the world. But after realising he was on the wrong path in life, he decided to walk away and figure out how to live a life that actually mattered to him. In the conversation we talk about his book The Pathless Path, the ultimate companion for people struggling to figure out what to do with their lives, which traces his journey from certainty and tradition to uncertainty and fulfilment. So if you’re thinking about leaving your job, taking off on a new adventure or simply wanting to approach work and life with a little more curiosity, this episode is for you. Enjoy :)
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(00:00) Intro
(01:43) Your background
(08:40) How do you tackle "I need money vs this job doesn’t bring me joy"
(15:14) The 3 step framework for figuring out your path
(20:41) Figuring out your passion
(28:40) The cost of life fulfilment
(34:59) The excitement of uncertainty
(38:06) Figuring out what is enough
(44:35) Following energy vs money
(49:23) Slow productivity
(51:55) Strategies for figuring out what you value
(55:57) The attitude of experimentation
(01:07:48) Long term thinking activities
(01:10:24) On spending money
(01:18:52) Your Book
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