How to Find a Career That's Not Based on a Zero Sum Game

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I do think someone has to do something about bad people. It's a different point than you're making with revenge, but I think it's true. There are many ways that people harm other people through their jobs. You can get really rich sometimes doing those things. And it's better to make less money doing something else because you're digging two graves.

Author Ryan Holiday discusses his book, Conspiracy, with EconTalk host Russ Roberts. This is a crazy episode about a crazy book about a crazy set of events--the Hulk Hogan lawsuit against the website Gawker, a lawsuit that was secretly funded by Peter Thiel. Holiday explains how this happened and the lessons for all of us related to conspiracies, patience, strategy, and revenge. Along the way, Holiday discusses his techniques for reading and lessons for how to grab someone's attention when looking for a job or opportunity.