Speaker 2
could also just sense you could just sell them to a beef farmer, right? Oh, no, it's not the right kind of cow. Yeah. No, well, sell what the cat. And that's not the right kind of not a not their kind of bull. Sorry, it's not the right kind of animal for beef, right? It
Speaker 1
is. I mean, they're they're okay, jerseys don't grow super fast. But if you have a cow that's lactate like a beef cow, let's see if an Angus cow and she her calf has died, you do need to try to replace it quickly before she dries up with another. You'll turn into a nurse cow. And that farmer might go to an auction and buy a bull calf. You know, that's from a local dairy farm. That's typically because we don't have a veal industry in America. That's typically probably where most dairy bull calves go or like we have a farmer in town who he doesn't buy jersey calves, but he he buys all the Holstein calves bull calves from Holstein being the more common kind of dairy cow in the United States, the big black and white ones and they those will grow bigger. Those calves will grow bigger and faster. So they're a little bit more feed efficient. The steers are anyway. And he buys all his bull calves from that farm in Loudon, Sweetwater Valley, you know, the cheese people. So and he and then he sells beef to the stock in barrel and all those places downtown. So that's one thing you could do is just buy a bunch of dairy bull calves and eat them milk replacer for a couple months. And then when they're ready to wane, you put them on
Speaker 2
grass. But for your purposes, your heifer calves, the girly calves, you just you just keep them right. That's your next generation. Yeah, and they're right. So
Speaker 1
whether they just stay with the milking herd. So a cow has a heifer calf that the calf stays with its mother and then is just in the milking herd. Okay.
Speaker 2
Are the calves taken away from the moms? So
Speaker 1
people wonder about a lot on a lot of dairy farms they are. And again, I don't I don't personally have any feelings whether I mean, I have strong feelings about whether a calf should be raised by its mother. But I totally understand why calves are not raised by their mothers on most dairy farms. Because again, if you think about that Saskatchewan dairy farm, that's like a confinement dairy, there's like six feet of snow outside, it's just almost infeasible to for that for the milking herd and the calves to all be together. I mean, it would be like a manure. I mean, you what you came to our milk in parlor and you saw that there's like two inches of manure slurry just around the manure part, the milking parlor. And it would be it would be a very unhealthy for calves to be living with milk cows in a confinement dairy system. That would be really. And okay, so on our farm cows raise their calves. We keep some bull calves, but then if we if other farmers need the calves, then we will sell those calves or if we don't need those bull calves for whatever reason, we'll sell them, you know, like on Facebook marketplace or whatever. Yeah. But I it's not that I don't believe personally that cows need to be raised by their mothers, just like I don't believe that human beings, children need to be raised by their mothers. Children need love, calves need love, things that you want to flourish, plants need love. I mean, if you want something to flourish, it needs love. And on most dairy farms that I go to where calves are reared by by people, generally it's the most nourishing loving person that is put in charge of raising those calves, because the calves are always going to do well if they're being raised with love. It's like, I mean, you know, sometimes we we forget that it takes a village to raise a child. I mean, children have to go to school, they have to go to daycare. Sometimes they're adopted, sometimes they're fostered by foster parents. I mean, there's all kinds of particular situations and you would be doing a disservice to a child to say you have to be raised by your mother and father only strictly, you know. And the same is it's a it's a little bit of a fallacy to equate cows and humans. But the same is true for cows that cows need to be nourished and loved for and cared for. And that and a calf can be very, very well cared for by its mother. And in some cases, it might not be cared for well by its mother. If the mother's not a good mother, I mean, it's a
Speaker 2
case by case thing.