How Pondering the Reality of the Ukraine War Can Actually Give Us Better Perspective

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David Rothkopf: The Ukraine war can actually give us better perspective here in this country. He says when he crossed back into Poland after leaving Kiev, he felt a visceral appreciation for NATO. When you go from war to peace and you realize the difference between the war and the peace is this entity that's the subject of all kinds of... "It just completely trivializes some of our cultural battles"

David returns from his recent trip to Kyiv to provide an eyewitness account of the war, including what it is like to survive the terror of a hypersonic missile attack by the Russians. He and Curtis discuss the physical, emotional, and spiritual toll of the war on the Ukrainian people. They explore what lessons we all should take from this ongoing, world changing event.

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