Kirsten: Who is the initial customer for this? And specifically, maybe where are they? Is it California? Is this related to the car rules that are coming for trucking? But then also, what are the kinds of routes? I mean, again, you're talking about a platform that someday will scale to lots of things. You hit it right on the head. So in California, there is a tremendous amount of pressure to decarbonize these trucking fleets, especially in Southern California. The big challenge is that there's like all this pressure being put on these large fleets that operate between 2000 and one of our customers operates 117,000 trailers across the United States.
Trucking has emerged as one of the most interesting and important areas for electrification, and Google/Tesla/Zoox veteran (and all-round car nut) Ali Javidan is in the thick of things with his startup Range Energy. Ali joins the show to explain Range's electrified trailer concept and discuss his wide-ranging and, frankly, incredibly cool experiences at the intersection of mobility and technology.